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Miks 2e on parem kui 3e?

Original, 2e, 3e, 3.5e Dungeons & Dragons ning ka alternatiivne d20 kraam

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PostitusPostitas Anonüümne 15:36 2. Apr 2003

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PostitusPostitas mart 16:09 2. Apr 2003

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PostitusPostitas mart 16:26 2. Apr 2003

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PostitusPostitas Teemon 16:28 2. Apr 2003

tnx...

point on lihtsalt selles, et 20lev tegelasele on need cats grace suurusj2rku boonust andvad itemid nii odavad, et kui ta v2hegi arvab et v6iks vaja minna, siis pole mingi probleem

cats grace annab minu m2lu j2rgi 1d4+1 ehk siis keskmiselt 3.5 punkti ja maksimaalselt 5 punni. dex+3 item maksab [boonus ruudus korda 1000] 3*3*1000 = 9000 gp

dex+5 item maksab 5*5*1000= 25,000 gp

suhteliselt odav 20 lev persoonile, kellel on n2nni vist umbes kolmveerand miljoni eest. igatahes odavam kui 3 levelit 2ra anda
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mõiste tähendusvälja inversioon - tribulant
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PostitusPostitas Anonüümne 19:05 2. Apr 2003

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PostitusPostitas Teemon 19:30 2. Apr 2003

n2iteks v6rdlus

Fighter vs fighter/rogue

1 – 1/1 (0XP)
2 - ½ (2,500XP)
3 – 2/3 (5,000XP)
4 – ¾ (10,000XP)
5 – 4/5 (20,000XP)
6 – 5/6 (40,000XP)
7 – 6/7 (80,000XP)
8 – 7/8 (140,000XP)
8 – 7/9 (220,000XP)
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PostitusPostitas Teemon 13:28 3. Apr 2003

veidi offtopic, aga 3e multiklassimise kohta:
wizardid tekitasid asja parandamiseks uue prestiizi, mis tahab eeldusena p6him6tteliselt 3 wizard / 3 clericut
prestiiz saab iga leveliga m6lema klassi spellioskused, aga ei yhtegi teist klassiomadust (featid, turn undead jne)

esmapilgul tundub p2ris overpower:
20 lev tegelana castib nagu 17 wizard / 17 cleric
ainult familiar ja turnimine on nagu 3 lev tegelasel ning pole wizardi bonus feate

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PostitusPostitas Anonüümne 13:46 3. Apr 2003

Mõned HUVITAVAD feat-id (üldiselt ka kasulikud) nõuavad ka multiklassimist, et nende õige power välja tuleks. Ametlikest raamatutest neid muidugi ei leia, tuleb otsida d20 raamatutest. Enamus prestiizhklasse, mis vähegi silma on jäänud, lasevad jällegi spellilevelil kasvada ning annavad ka prestiizhklassi omadusi.

Aga ega see prestiizhklassimine vist päris multiklassimine ikka ei ole.

Mart kirjeldas vahepeal päris täpselt, et mitte-spellcasterid saavad multiklassimisest kõvasti kasu, spellcasterid jäävad kängu. Põhimõtteliselt olen sellega nõus, aga väidan, et paar kaotust teise leveli arvelt ei põhjusta nii dramaatilist mahajäämust. Just seda rõhutan, et ENAMASTI on NPC-d ka multiklassilised ja kui kaasmängijad ka multiklassivad, siis pole ju mingit mahajäämust.

Kui on eesmärk olla kõige kõvem mees tiimis :) siis on muidugi mõistlik juba esimesel levelil hakata arendama mingit kindlat suunda, kõikvõimalike prestiizhklasside läbi, mis jätkavad spellide progresseerumist jne. Ja selline kõva mees hoiab siis algul paari leveli jooksul ennast tagasi, sõltub kaasmängijatest, kuni mingil hetkel võtab juhtimise üle. :) Mis on ju ka päris põnev.

Üldises plaanis on ju enamus spelle, skille ja feate KASUTUD, kuna neid ei õnnestu kokku kombineerida fataalseteks combo-deks. :) Aga selle pärast ei saa neid ju raamatutest välja jätta. :)
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