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Dragon.ee foorum • Vaata teemat - Kas D&D võtab inimeselt reaalsus tunde?
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Kas D&D võtab inimeselt reaalsus tunde?

PostitusPostitatud: 11:48 23. Mär 2005
Postitas kuriboh

PostitusPostitatud: 11:53 23. Mär 2005
Postitas Irve
Põhjendaksid äkist et miks sa sellist asja arvad ka.

PostitusPostitatud: 11:54 23. Mär 2005
Postitas Oberon
Vahest on tegemist väikest viisi enesekriitikaga ja , et end mitte väga halvasti tunda uurib kuidas teistel lood on.

PostitusPostitatud: 13:19 23. Mär 2005
Postitas uuk

PostitusPostitatud: 13:22 23. Mär 2005
Postitas higgins

PostitusPostitatud: 13:27 23. Mär 2005
Postitas uuk

PostitusPostitatud: 13:35 23. Mär 2005
Postitas ohpuu

PostitusPostitatud: 13:53 23. Mär 2005
Postitas pronto
Uuk, muide, ma olen osade kodanike puhul seda tendetsi ka tõepoolest märganud, seega sarkasm ei ole siinkohas 100% paslik. Rollimäng arendab süsteemisisest mõtlemist ja probleemiks selle juures on see, et inimestel tekib kõva reeglite/raamitunnetus ning seetõttu out-of-box mõtlemine saab märkimisväärselt pärsitud. Kusjuures ise on inimene loomulikult paksult rahul.

PostitusPostitatud: 14:03 23. Mär 2005
Postitas uuk

PostitusPostitatud: 14:11 23. Mär 2005
Postitas pronto

PostitusPostitatud: 14:12 23. Mär 2005
Postitas Koriztaja

PostitusPostitatud: 14:56 23. Mär 2005
Postitas ohpuu
mul on kah kuri kahtlus, et rollimängu standardlahendused põhinevad ysna tihti yhel ja samal lohetapmislool, et kolm takistust loheni jõudmisel, lohe maha tappa, saada printsess ja varandus. ja siis minnakse kõrtsi, kust saadakse teadust järgmise lohe kohta ja samamoodi edasi, variatsioonidega (need ei pruugi olla kõrtsid ega lohed, aga avantyyri narratiivne struktuur säilib sellest hoolimata). muidugi on võimalik teha ka paremat mängu, aga see on keerulisevõitu juurdunud käitumismallide tõttu. mängijate juhitavate tegelaste ettevõtmised ja huvid kipuvad mängu žanrist lähtudes olema väga ettearvatavad, rääkimata tegelaste võimetest ja paljuski see muudab kõik drägunimaailmad tegelikult yhesugusteks. see jutt käis põhiliselt D&D-manerismide pihta yleyldiselt, D&D-l on tõesti kalduvus käia sissetallatud radu pidi. iga tegelase tegevuse taandatavus lohetapjamuinasjutu peategelase moodi käitumisele paistab olevat D&Dsse sisse kirjutatud.

kui aga mängida kõiksuguste tasandite mängureeglite systemaatilise eiramise, väänamise ning juhusliku nurkaheitmise peale ja systeeme varieerida või läbisegi tarvitada, siis võib tunduvalt huvitavamaid asju syndida. aga sedagi paraku mitte liiga tihti ega kauaks, rutiinid on kerged tekkima. noh, alustuseks võiks mängida järjest lyhikest aega viies eri mängusysteemis vaheldumisi. niiviisi oleks ehk võimalik tavamängija harjumuste kujunemist vältida ja saavutada teatav abstraktsioon.

korraliku juhuslikkuse simuleerimiseks peab olema mängujuhi peas väga avar maailm väga paljude tegelastega, maailm, mis saaks avarduda ja uusi & huvitavaid soppe tekitada ka joonelt, samuti kui uusi omanäolisi tegelasi. ja peale selle tuleb mängijaid alalõpmata yllatada millegi tõesti ootamatuga, mis aga mängu ei rikuks. (ja nii kord nädalas või tihemini?)

kus pole, sealt ei anna midagi võtta, kyll aga saab sinna põhimõtteliselt midagi panna.


PostitusPostitatud: 15:35 23. Mär 2005
Postitas pronto

PostitusPostitatud: 15:39 23. Mär 2005
Postitas ohpuu

PostitusPostitatud: 16:20 23. Mär 2005
Postitas pronto